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Rubbermaid FG7J11TRCHILI Review by Dave (Portland)
To start with, let me say I realize this review is a little over the top. I mean after all, we are talking about a cheap little container we use to store left-over macaroni. That being said, if you're like my family we end up storing, heating, and washing these containers a lot and we want them to clean up easy, not warp or crack in the dishwasher, and above all, to be safe (especially for use when my wife is pregnant and for storing or heating food for our children).
The original Premier line was the only plastic food storage product I've ever owned that didn't stain when it held tomato sauce. It's wasn't just tomato sauce: all kinds of berries in sugar, purple cabbage, beets, you name it we've stored it. They just didn't stain. They were hard, durable, and the lids were really easy to put on and take off. Microwaving and dishwashing did little to the appearance (they dull slightly but it's barely noticeable). Easily the best product of its kind I'd ever owned.
And one day I threw them all away.
When my wife and I started our family we took a good survey of the science and decided that the health risks associated with BPA were probably real. We are both very analytical engineers who did way too much research into this. We decided that while the risks to adults were inconclusive there was serious indicators that BPA's endocrine disrupting aspects were very likely a health risk for babies, particularly in the early days of fetal development (one large manufacturer of BPA now refuses to sell it for use in infant products). We decided to get rid of any polycarbonate food containers made with BPA and so the Premier (which contained BPA) got tossed out. We switched to the Easy Find Lids line which was good, but not as good as the Premiere line.
In of March 2010 Rubbermaid introduced a new line of Premier food storage containers that are BPA free. These have red lids, a swirl pattern in the plastic and "BPA Free" stamped on the bottom. These are made using the "Tritan" branded co-polymer manufactured by Eastman. Eastman has specifically developed Tritan to avoid the health risks associated with plastics made with BPA. So there are two questions: Is it safe? And does it work as well as the old Premier line?
Is it safe?
The answer appears to be yes, and I think Eastman has done a good job of publishing their testing methods and using reputable outside research to validate that Tritan is very safe. It passes (of course) the basic toxicity test and skin testing (to their great credit Eastman has published their testing methods for peer review). More importantly none of the monomers used in manufacturing (there are three) interact with the endocrine system. To be specific they were tested by the Robert Wood Johnson Medical School for estrogen and testosterone binding (there was none). It was further subjected to both Ueterotrophic and Hershberger assays by Wil Research Laboratories. The uterotrophic assay test for estrogenicity (basically "does it imitate estrogen") on both immature and ovulating female rats. The Hershberger assays test for androgen affects (most notably testosterone). In both cases there were no affects. (BPA for example has demonstrated BPA-induced uterotrophy in rats in testing done by the National Institutes of Health.) In short, it does appear that pregnant women and babies can safely use these products: it should not disrupt natural hormonal activity.
Does it work?
In most cases Tritan is better than polycarbonate and better than other BPA free alternatives such as transparent ABS, cyclic olefin, and impact modified acrylics. About the only thing that the "old" Premier was better at was heat resistance. What distinguishes Tritan from other co-polymers is that it combines hydrolytic resistance, heat resistance, stress tolerance and chemical resistance. Which is to say you can clean in the dishwasher over and over without it warping or cracking. A home dishwasher attacks dishes with heat (up to 70c) chemical detergents, water, and abrasion (when overpacked). Tritan has a transition temperature of around 110c (just enough to let you safely sterilize baby bottles made from it) far above the temperature of even commercial dishwashers. Tritan is also less likely to warp or crack under stress than polycarbonate. So whereas the old Premiere might crack or warp after a dozen runs in an overfull dishwasher, the new Premier can survive hundreds of such runs. It's high chemical resistance not only protects it from detergents it means you can store tomato sauce in it. In short it's generally better than the old Premier line except that if you leave both too close to the stove, the new Premier will melt first. So don't do that.
I've tried them out myself and I have to say the new Premier line is probably the best plastic food container line out there. I don't particularly care for the swirly lines, but aside from that I really like them.
Rubbermaid FG7J11TRCHILI Review by T.J. (Texas/Italy)
---------------I have updated this review below with an alternative product---------------
I'm only giving these 3 stars (I thought about 2 stars) but the reason is because of how Rubbermaid completely RUINED the awesome (5 star) Stain Shield line they had before this travesty came along. I hate to say it, but if you're looking for good plastic containers, these are probably the best ones out there at the moment (because of the Stain Shield technology), but only if you can get over the absolutely horrendous lid design. In my opinion, the Stain Shield containers that these replaced were superior in so many ways. Redesigning the lid to be fancy just ruined the line, so if you're Rubbermaid, how about bring back the old Coke formula?
Problem #1
Sure, the lids flex more than the old ones, but it comes at BIG price of being very, very difficult to clean when the old model was SO EASY! That gray/red part really is rubber and scouring pads don't do well in cleaning rubber; it just sticks. Go throw some soap suds on your car tires and see how easy it is to clean with a kitchen scrubber, now clean your car windows with the same scrubber. That's the difference between the old line and this one. It's like trying to scrub off the residue that an adhesive label leaves behind. Don't get me started on the deep grooves in the lid that you're never going to get into to clean either. It boggles my mind how they thought this improvement was sanitary.
Problem #2
The lids are recessed and go BELOW the surface of the lip when fully seated - at least a quarter inch if not more! So no longer can you fill up the bowl to it's capacity like before. Also, there's no line that tells you were that limit is so it's sort of a guessing game. Did you put too much soup in the container? Well, the only way to know for sure is to set the lid on and see if you get soup being pushed out the sides when you press the lid on. So yeah, before you didn't get anything on the lid and it was easy to clean; now you get a ton of stuff on the lid and it's really hard to clean. What were you thinking Rubbermaid? Terrible design, just terrible. The old model didn't do this and sat flush, if not just a little above the top of the container.
Problem #3
If you stack 2 containers on top of each other with their lids on, you have to lift the container up out of a depression from the lid it's sitting on top of, you can't slide it out. That's hard to explain, but if you look at the picture you can probably get the idea. Again, the previous model had a completely flat top, which meant that when they were in the fridge, you could slide them out easily. That may not seem like a big deal when it's in the cupboard, but when it's in a packed fridge with other containers, it just gets annoying. Another terrible design "improvement". Although I will say that some folks will probably like this feature since it keeps the containers stacked more neatly and are less prone to sliding off of each other. This is not a problem in my house.
Problem #4
There's more rubber on the lid which means you can't see inside the container as well as before. They've cut the viewing area down significantly and they are much more difficult to seat. You have to line them up just right.
Problem #5
The previous model let you microwave something with the lid cracked on the container, flip the lid over when it was done microwaving, and set the hot container on it and walk away. Voila! An easy-to-walk-away-with a hot container! It was like having a built-in pot holder. Those days are over with this lid.
The Good #1
The bottom part of the containers didn't change much, just a little curvier but still 100% functional; no complaints there at all. The stain-shield technology is just amazing and in the 5+ years I've been using them, not one stain! That part is huge for me since I store and microwave a lot of tomato-based items. Also, they do not retain odors, so that's another HUGE plus for this garlic lover.
The Good #2
You can microwave and freeze these containers a thousand times and not have any worries. They can take pretty much anything you can throw at them. In 5 years I've had 2 bowls crack just from normal wear and tear. That's pretty good if you ask me.
If you don't know if you should get the round or square sizes, I have both the round and square containers and find the square to be much easier when it comes to storage. It's a much more efficient use of space in the refrigerator.
The red line of these bowls are BPA-free.
All-in-all, the lid "improvements" they made to this line have completely ruined it in my opinion. I'm always on the lookout for remnants of their old line, but to no avail; I can't find them anywhere. I need to buy more containers, but in the meantime, I'm hoping for a better design to come out, either Rubbermaid or someone else.
**If you know of a better product than this one, please leave a comment and let us all know!!!
--------------------------------------Update 6 Oct 10--------------------------------------
I think I may have found a possible alternative product: Pyrex. Specifically, Pyrex Serve and Store.
1. They are glass. Breakable, although Pyrex is VERY tough.
2. No toxins are ever released from glass.
3. They come with flat plastic lids that are easy to clean. They're not clear, but their flatness trumps that.
4. You can buy replacement lids from Corning or Revere.
5. They have pyrex models that come with 2 types of lids (vented glass and plastic, and the glass lid is clear)
6. Inexpensive. I was surprised at how low they're priced; just check here on Amazon.
7. Pyrex Serve and Store lids and bowls stack well.
8. Containers can be used as classy serving dishes, not so with the Rubbermaid ones.
9. You can put them in the oven and then put the same dish in the refrigerator.
10. Pyrex has been selling their bowls for YEARS and the styles and sizes have stayed fairly consistent for what seems like forever. So now, you won't have 10 different types of non-interchangeable plastic-ware since Rubbermaid, Tupperware, and everyone else change their design/sizes every year or two.
Rubbermaid FG7J11TRCHILI Review by Tommy
Like the stackability, and lids lock into each other. The deal killer is that they do not seal in liquids. I bought the more expensive rubbermaid to use camping and picnicing and found that if it tipped, any liquid would leak out. Never used in microwave or freezer and were hand washed most of the time, so that wasn't the problem.Rubbermaid 7J12 Premier 20-Piece Food-Storage Container Set
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Rubbermaid 12-Piece New Premier Food Storage Container Set Description
The Rubbermaid FG7J11TRCHILI 12 Piece Premier Food Storage Set contains (2) 1.25 cup, (2) 2 cup, (1) 3 cup, and (1) 5 cup containers with lids. Rubbermaid Premier Containers are made with Tritan™ plastic that resists stains and odors. Plus, Premiers have Flex & Seal™ lids that are easy to seal and remove. Part of the Easy Find Lids system, Premier lids snap to bases and other lids so you will not have to search for lids again and nest together to take up less room in your cabinets. The crystal clear bases are perfect for easily seeing the contents of the container and the square shape allows for easy stacking and storage in the refrigerator. The new Rubbermaid Premier food storage containers are BPA free.
- 12-piece set of containers made with Tritan plastic that resists stains and odors
- Dishwasher, microwave, and freezer safe
- Set includes 3-cup and 5-cup containers plus two each of 1-1/4-cup and 2-cup containers (all with lids)
- Flex & Seal lids are easy to seal and remove; Easy Find lids snap to bottom of container and to each other
- Base and lids nest inside each other
- Item Dimensions: 8 x 8 x 8 inches; 1 pounds
- Brand: Rubbermaid
- Model: FG7J11TRCHILI
- Product Type: Kitchen
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